Sunday, March 17, 2024

FINAL SEED LISTS 2024

So below is our pair of seed lists. We have one for a UAB victory (UAB as a 13) and one for a Temple victory (Temple as a 15). I think that the Big Ten finalists will hold their positions regardless of result.

Where did we struggle? First, on Duke v Auburn for the last 3. Very close call for us, but while Duke didn't help themselves (at all), Auburn didn't beat anyone ahead of or level with them (say, Alabama, Tennessee, or Kentucky) so it wasn't quite enough to move them up a line.

Second, on Clemson. I don't think they deserve the 6 I gave them, but their profile just looked better than the 7's. Speaking of which, we had trouble sorting the Mountain West middle teams. I won't be surprised if USU ends up a 6 or Boise an 8, but we decided to level them all off at 7. 

Third, on Washington State. Really, every time I looked at their profile, I saw the two Arizona wins and... not much else. If they end up higher than an 8, we'll know what got them there.

Fourth, TAMU, with their unimpressive overall record and Q3 losses... and all those Q1 games and wins, especially the big ones. I feel like they deserved to be rewarded for the schedule and the wins more than punished for the losses.

I honestly didn't think it was much of a decision at the cut line, and while FAU and Oklahoma didn't really impress me, I'll be shocked if St. John's gets in ahead of them. They're not leaving Michigan State out, and while Colorado lacks quality wins, they avoided the bad losses.

We mostly stuck to the NET rankings for the 12's to 16's. We'll learn from that one way or the other.

Here's the lists:

Seed List (UAB wins)     Conference

  1. CONNECTICUT             Big East
  2. Houston                             Big 12
  3. Purdue Big Ten
  4. North Carolina ACC
  5. Arizona Pac-12
  6. Tennessee SEC
  7. IOWA STATE Big 12
  8. Marquette Big East
  9. Creighton Big East
  10. Baylor Big 12
  11. Illinois Big Ten
  12. Duke ACC
  13. Auburn SEC
  14. Kentucky SEC
  15. Alabama SEC
  16. Kansas Big 12
  17. BYU Big 12
  18. San Diego State Mountain West
  19. South Carolina SEC
  20. Wisconsin Big Ten
  21. Texas Tech Big 12
  22. Florida SEC
  23. Clemson ACC
  24. ST. MARY'S West Coast
  25. Utah State Mountain West
  26. Gonzaga West Coast
  27. Nevada Mountain West
  28. Boise State Mountain West
  29. Dayton Atlantic 10
  30. Nebraska Big Ten
  31. Texas Big 12
  32. Washington State Pac-12
  33. Colorado State Mountain West
  34. Mississippi State SEC
  35. TCU Big 12
  36. Northwestern Big Ten
  37. Texas A&M SEC
  38. NEW MEXICO Mountain West
  39. Colorado Pac 12
  40. Michigan State Big Ten
  41. Florida Atlantic American
  42. Oklahoma Big 12
  43. DRAKE Missouri Valley
  44. OREGON Pac-12
  45. NORTH CAROLINA STATE ACC
  46. GRAND CANYON WAC
  47. JAMES MADISON Sun Belt
  48. MCNEESE STATE Southland
  49. YALE Ivy
  50. SAMFORD Southern
  51. DUQUESNE Atlantic 10
  52. COLLEGE OF CHARLESTON Coastal
  53. VERMONT America East
  54. UAB American
  55. MOREHEAD STATE Ohio Valley
  56. AKRON MAC
  57. COLGATE Patriot
  58. OAKLAND Horizon
  59. SOUTH DAKOTA STATE Summit
  60. WESTERN KENTUCKY CUSA
  61. LONGWOOD Big South
  62. LONG BEACH STATE Big West
  63. ST. PETER'S Metro Atlantic
  64. MONTANA STATE Big Sky
  65. STETSON Atlantic Sun
  66. HOWARD MEAC
  67. GRAMBLING SWAC
  68. WAGNER Northeast

Seed List, Temple Wins:

  1. CONNECTICUT Big East
  2. Houston Big 12
  3. Purdue Big Ten
  4. North Carolina ACC
  5. Arizona Pac-12
  6. Tennessee SEC
  7. IOWA STATE Big 12
  8. Marquette Big East
  9. Creighton Big East
  10. Baylor Big 12
  11. Illinois Big Ten
  12. Duke ACC
  13. Auburn SEC
  14. Kentucky SEC
  15. Alabama SEC
  16. Kansas Big 12
  17. BYU Big 12
  18. San Diego State Mountain West
  19. South Carolina SEC
  20. Wisconsin Big Ten
  21. Texas Tech Big 12
  22. Florida SEC
  23. Clemson ACC
  24. ST. MARY'S West Coast
  25. Utah State Mountain West
  26. Gonzaga West Coast
  27. Nevada Mountain West
  28. Boise State Mountain West
  29. Dayton Atlantic 10
  30. Nebraska Big Ten
  31. Texas Big 12
  32. Washington State Pac-12
  33. Colorado State Mountain West
  34. Mississippi State SEC
  35. TCU Big 12
  36. Northwestern Big Ten
  37. Texas A&M SEC
  38. NEW MEXICO Mountain West
  39. Colorado Pac 12
  40. Michigan State Big Ten
  41. Florida Atlantic American
  42. Oklahoma Big 12
  43. DRAKE Missouri Valley
  44. OREGON Pac-12
  45. NORTH CAROLINA STATE ACC
  46. GRAND CANYON WAC
  47. JAMES MADISON Sun Belt
  48. MCNEESE STATE Southland
  49. YALE Ivy
  50. SAMFORD Southern
  51. DUQUESNE Atlantic 10
  52. COLLEGE OF CHARLESTON Coastal
  53. VERMONT America East
  54. MOREHEAD STATE Ohio Valley
  55. AKRON MAC
  56. COLGATE Patriot
  57. OAKLAND Horizon
  58. SOUTH DAKOTA STATE Summit
  59. TEMPLE American
  60. WESTERN KENTUCKY Conference USA
  61. LONGWOOD Big South
  62. LONG BEACH STATE Big West
  63. ST. PETER'S Metro Atlantic
  64. MONTANA STATE Big Sky
  65. STETSON Atlantic Sun
  66. HOWARD MEAC
  67. GRAMBLING SWAC
  68. WAGNER Northeast
I'm just including the "UAB wins" bracket graphics, since they're up by alot at halftime.






Friday, March 15, 2024

Seed List, 3/15/24

 As of mid-day, Friday, March 15th.

A few notes about this.

I think Tennessee's loss costs them the last 1-seed. I think that UNC has an easier path to winning the ACC than Arizona does to the Pac 12 title. If Arizona wins and UNC gets upset, they get the last 1. If they both win... it's going to be close.

I think Nevada will probably get passed, by Wisconsin or maybe TTU for that last 5.

I dropped Seton Hall out, did not think their metrics were good enough. I like Providence more than them right now after comparing their team sheets. 

Virginia is in a bad spot drawing NCST, a team that's not even really on the bubble. A loss, for me, would drop them out. 

Had trouble assessing New Mexico and Texas A&M. A&M has those huge wins over Tennessee, Kentucky and Iowa state, but five Q3 losses. UNM has a similar Q1 record, but against less impressive teams, and their overall schedule is weaker (though the Mountain West is a gauntlet this year). I like the Lobos a little better right now and think A&M is closer to getting passed (maybe by Providence? Pitt?). All these teams better be rooting against South Florida to open up a spot, but I'm hoping USF pulls it out... I want some non-P6 schools to get in, and I'm sure a P6 school will take USF's spot.

Hardest to leave out is Indiana State. I'm going to re-review their case as these games shake out, but despite a strong NET and respectable SOR, they did their damage against Q3/4. Maybe they'll get a break like Belmont did a few years back...

I feel like a few high-NET teams are going to get the shaft. Villanova, ISU, maybe UNM, possibly Colorado... and we'll be talking about the NET needing an overhaul. Dayton has the NET of a six-seed, but their lack of quality wins and uneven finish will push them down to the 8/9 game.

SeedTeamConference
11PurdueBig Ten
12ConnecticutBig East
13HoustonBig 12
14North CarolinaACC
25ArizonaPacific-12
26TennesseeSEC
27Iowa StateBig 12
28MarquetteBig East
39CreightonBig East
310BaylorBig 12
311DukeACC
312KentuckySEC
413IllinoisBig Ten
414AlabamaSEC
415AuburnSEC
416KansasBig 12
517BYUBig 12
518San Diego StateMountain West
519South CarolinaSEC
520NevadaMountain West
621Washington StatePacific-12
622WisconsinBig Ten
623ClemsonACC
624Texas TechBig 12
725ST. MARY'SWest Coast
726Utah StateMountain West
727GonzagaWest Coast
728FloridaSEC
829DaytonAtlantic 10
830TexasBig 12
831Boise StateMountain West
832Colorado StateMountain West
933NorthwesternBig Ten
934NebraskaBig Ten
935TCUBig 12
936Mississippi StateSEC
1037Michigan StateBig Ten
1038OklahomaBig 12
1039Florida AtlanticAmerican
1040St. John'sBig East
1141DRAKEMissouri Valley
1142VirginiaACC
1143New MexicoMountain West
1144ColoradoPac 12
1145Texas A&MSEC
1146PrincetonIvy
1247Grand CanyonWAC
1248JAMES MADISONSun Belt
1249MCNEESE STATESouthland
1250UC IrvineBig West
1351SAMFORDSouthern
1152VCUAtlantic 10
1353South FloridaAmerican
1354COLLEGE OF CHARLESTONCoastal
1455VermontAmerica East
1456MOREHEAD STATEOhio Valley
1457AkronMAC
1458OAKLANDHorizon
1559COLGATEPatriot
1560SOUTH DAKOTA STATESummit
1561Western KentuckyCUSA
1562LONGWOODBig South
1663QuinnipiacMetro Atlantic
1664MONTANA STATEBig Sky
1665STETSONAtlantic Sun
1666Norfolk StateMid-Eastern
1667GramblingSWAC
1668WAGNERNortheast

Friday, March 8, 2024

Seed List, March 8th

 Here's the seed list for March 8th. Tennessee gets the fourth 1-seed for now, and would be sent out West...where Arizona will be waiting anyway. I'm thinking Marquette holds on to that last 2 for the moment. The Mountain West is good this year and I think SDST will get a 4-seed, but not quite yet. The 12's are going to be a handful this year, as will some of the 13s. I guess that's not really news, but those are some really good teams!


1PurdueBig Ten
2ConnecticutBig East
3HoustonBig 12
4TennesseeSEC
5ArizonaPacific-12
6North CarolinaACC
7Iowa StateBig 12
8MarquetteBig East
9DukeACC
10BaylorBig 12
11KansasBig 12
12CreightonBig East
13KentuckySEC
14AlabamaSEC
15IllinoisBig Ten
16AuburnSEC
17BYUBig 12
18San Diego StateMountain West
19ClemsonACC
20South CarolinaSEC
21Washington StatePacific-12
22WisconsinBig Ten
23FloridaSEC
24Utah StateMountain West
25DaytonAtlantic 10
26St. Mary's (CA)West Coast
27GonzagaWest Coast
28Texas TechBig 12
29NevadaMountain West
30TexasBig 12
31Boise StateMountain West
32Colorado StateMountain West
33NorthwesternBig Ten
34OklahomaBig 12
35TCUBig 12
36Mississippi StateSEC
37Michigan StateBig Ten
38NebraskaBig Ten
39Florida AtlanticAmerican
40Seton HallBig East
41VirginiaACC
42VillanovaBig East
43St. John'sBig East
44ColoradoPac 12
45Indiana StateMissouri Valley
46South FloridaAmerican
47RichmondAtlantic 10
48PrincetonIvy
49Grand CanyonWAC
50McNeese StateSouthland
51Appalachian StateSun Belt
52SamfordSouthern
53UC IrvineBig West
54Louisiana TechCUSA
55VermontAmerica East
56AkronMAC
57College of CharlestonCoastal
58High PointBig South
59OaklandHorizon
60Morehead StateOhio Valley
61ColgatePatriot
62QuinnipiacMetro Atlantic
63Norfolk StateMid-Eastern
64Eastern WashingtonBig Sky
65StetsonAtlantic Sun
66South Dakota StateSummit
67GramblingSWAC
68MerrimackNortheast